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sr #110956: Orbit (now Evojet) Pocketlader data visualisation

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Submitted:  Sat 11 Nov 2023 10:17:54 AM UTC
Category:  None Priority:  5 - Normal
Severity:  2 - Minor Status:  None
Privacy:  Public Assigned to:  brueg
Originator Email:  -email is unavailable- Open/Closed:  Closed
Operating System:  Mac OS
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Sun 23 Jun 2024 09:21:08 AM UTC, comment #14: 

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Winfried Brügmann <brueg>
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Sat 25 Nov 2023 09:16:44 AM UTC, comment #13: 

Hi Klaus,
according to your question "How can I implement the simple data protocol by reusing an other device?" I assume none of the proposed serial device fit the Pocketlader.

I recommend to follow , make a copy of a device, for instance iMax B6, checkout how the gathering thread is working and change according the device specific protocol. May be you will find some helpful here

have a nice day, Winfried

Winfried Brügmann <brueg>
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Sat 25 Nov 2023 09:08:02 AM UTC, comment #12: 

I checked w/ macbook pro 2017 Intel. port enumerator finds the usbserial.

Why it's not running on the mini mac anymore? No idea. Maybe, I only used the graphics; can't remember.
Also this mini mac M1 has a lot of trouble with the usb ports. Those are unstable. They work better connected to powered hubs.

How can I implement the simple data protocol by reusing an other device?

Fri 24 Nov 2023 05:49:17 PM UTC, comment #11: 

Hi Klaus,

there are several devices supported by DataExplorer. Some just can load data by importing a file. Others use native USB communication. Only the devices using serial port communication will update the port list in the device selection dialog.

I just wonder about empty selection list. Every system have some initial type of build in serial port.

hope this helps, Winfried

Winfried Brügmann <brueg>
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Fri 24 Nov 2023 09:03:36 AM UTC, comment #10: 

Hi Klaus,

is the empty port list the same at both MACs, ARM and Intel? I use a MacBook 2018 with Intel processor and Sonoma (14.1.1).

I wonder about this, you told me you are using an AV4ms without problems at both systems?

regards, Winfried

Winfried Brügmann <brueg>
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Thu 23 Nov 2023 05:13:56 PM UTC, comment #9: 

The selection list is empty.

But I can use the b.m. interface with a terminal sw like screen.

Thu 23 Nov 2023 03:37:11 PM UTC, comment #8: 

Hi Klaus,
the shown serial port selection will result in

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<DeviceProperties xmlns:xsi="" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="DeviceProperties_V47.xsd">
        <name implementation="gde.device.skyrc.IMaxB6">iMax B6</name>
        <image>iMax B6.jpg</image>
of~/Library/Application Support/DataExplorer/Devices/iMax B6.xml

regards, Winfried

Winfried Brügmann <brueg>
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Thu 23 Nov 2023 03:30:57 PM UTC, comment #7: 

Hi Klaus,
actual I can not follow you, please refer to the screenshot attached.

At the device selection dialog there is a drop down which will show actual connected serial ports. Select the correct one added by the connected serial to USB adapter of your charger.

regards, Winfried

Winfried Brügmann <brueg>
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Thu 23 Nov 2023 12:54:11 PM UTC, comment #6: 

I can't change the port name in the properties section of the loaders.
The program can't find a port.

I have to use something like /dev/tty.usbserial-112410.
So have to stop here.

Thu 23 Nov 2023 12:43:41 PM UTC, comment #5: 

output lines, normal charging nicd
starting 104s = 1:44 min:sec, 17,118V, 100mA
111s: switching to 150mA
128s: switching back to 100mA


regards, Klaus

Mon 13 Nov 2023 02:10:42 PM UTC, comment #4: 

Connection parameters are:
9600 bps 8/n/1.

Still no luck in downloading the docs.
I'll try a linux box later.

My job keeps me busy right now, so I'll check the suggested charger later.

regards, Klaus

Sun 12 Nov 2023 05:10:06 PM UTC, comment #3: 

Hi Klaus,
just tried downloading documentation in both languages, no problem at all. If problems still exist try Anyhow referencing users guide will not give any information for user implementation.

Great news that serial connection preform without problems on ARM and Intel macOS. Actual I could not test it.

Does one of the proposed charger device is doing the job for your charger?

If you can connect using terminal you must have connection parameter like Baudrate, Databits, Stopbits, Parity, a.s.o. Please provide me some output lines, so I will get a better idea.

AV4ms is a great device handling Eneloop cells, yes.

with kind regards, Winfried

Winfried Brügmann <brueg>
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Sun 12 Nov 2023 11:12:44 AM UTC, comment #2: 

Hi Winfried,

connection is a serial connection via TTL-RS232 converter (max) and serial-ubs converter.
Receiving data to a terminal is running fine.

Concerning the docs in the download area:
Benutzerhandbuch results in 404, not found. English version also.

I'm running DataExplorer on both, arm and intel, successfully w/ AV4ms/Mössinger.

regards, Klaus

Sat 11 Nov 2023 03:50:28 PM UTC, comment #1: 

Hi Klaus,

I assume the communication between PC and charger is going over serial connection. The cable looks like there is a serial to USB adapter.

If this is the case, try to select

The pocket charger is actual not supported.
Similar device may be  iMax B6 or eStation BC6 or Pichler P6*.
Documentation can be found in download area

The MAC ist that Intel or ARM CPU?

regard, Winfried

Winfried Brügmann <brueg>
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Sat 11 Nov 2023 10:17:54 AM UTC, original submission:  

Hi all,

I would like to read data from Orbit Pocketlader into DataExplorer.

- has that been done already?
- are there similar devices in the support list?
- is there a documentation as starting point?

Motivation: I use macs. The orbit sw runs on windows, which I don't have.

data from the loader is just a short ascii string w/ few values, comma separated.
data is sent w/ a period of 1 sec.
I don't care for the mode code.

structure (acc. to the manual):

MC is mode code:
MC Operating mode
P    Delta peak automatic charging
D    Discharging
R    Reflex charging
F    Forming
N    Normal charging
B    Lead battery charging
L    Lithium

Greetings, Klaus



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