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bug #21243: default as a possible non-default style is confusing to users

Submitted by:  Boud Roukema <boud>
Submitted on:  Wed 03 Oct 2007 11:47:09 PM UTC  
 
Category: NoneSeverity: 1 - Wish
Status: Wont FixPrivacy: Public
Assigned to: NoneOpen/Closed: Closed

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Sat 19 Jul 2008 11:22:51 PM UTC, comment #4:

improved explanation to sysadmin in defaults.yaml - see
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/samizdat/data/samizdat/defaults.yaml?revision=1.16&root=samizdat&view=markup

Let's close this.

Boud Roukema <boud>
Project Member
Fri 09 Nov 2007 10:36:23 PM UTC, comment #3:

i agree that we don't want to disrupt existing users.

On the other hand, IMHO we need to also make things easier,
more intuitive, conceptually natural for new users.

Is a solution to satisfy both possible?

How about a rename + a soft link so that old configs
remain valid, as in the following?

i have no idea if the debian install would copy the soft link
correctly - i haven't tried working on the debian package
yet.

> It is easy enough to click on different themes...


One reasonably experienced web user chose a theme that he
wanted as default, and then tried clicking on default and
was confused because his chosen default theme was replaced
by another theme - the one which we know has the name "default"
but is the distribution default but not necessarily the
sysadmin default nor the user's default.

So this problem was reported from actual usage.

Boud Roukema <boud>
Project Member
Sun 04 Nov 2007 08:10:16 PM UTC, comment #2:

While I agree that this may be a bit confusing, changing this now will only cause more confusion for existing users. Especially those who already have "default" theme in their cookies.

It is easy enough to click on different themes on the Settings page and see what each looks like.

Dmitry Borodaenko <angdraug>
Project Administrator
Wed 03 Oct 2007 11:48:39 PM UTC, comment #1:

severity = normal because confusing the user is a Bad Thing.

Boud Roukema <boud>
Project Member
Wed 03 Oct 2007 11:47:09 PM UTC, original submission:

PROBLEM: Among the present list of css style files is one which
is called "default".

However, it is possible to choose another css file as default.
In that case, default.css is not default, while a default will
exist, but with a different name to default.css.

This can be confusing to users (like it was to me the first time),
since "(defaut != default)" and "(default = !default)" are
rather problematic in first order classical logic.

FIX: Change the name of default.css to something else. i don't
mind what. Maybe 'classic'? Or 'soft_greyish' ? Just about
anything other than 'default' should be ok...

A corresponding change should be made in defaults.yaml ;)
This file is not visible to users, so its name is not so
bad. However, probably its name should be changed too,
e.g. to allsites.yaml which would make things clearer
about the difference between the config-for-all-sites and
the config-for-one-site config files. This would require
changes in deployment.rb, test/mock.rb and install.txt...

cheers
boud

Boud Roukema <boud>
Project Member

 

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