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task #7731: Submission of ed van der meulen

Submitted by:  ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Submitted on:  Fri 01 Feb 2008 11:09:01 PM UTC  
Should Start On:  Fri 01 Feb 2008 12:00:00 AM UTC Should be Finished on:  Mon 11 Feb 2008 12:00:00 AM UTC
Category:  Project Approval Priority:  5 - Normal
Status:  Cancelled Privacy:  Public
Percent Complete:  0% Assigned to:  Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>
Open/Closed:  Closed Effort:  0.00

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Tue 12 Feb 2008 11:22:53 PM UTC, comment #14: 

We have promoted you, sourceforge, and berlios all the time already. A soon you will more project post. Berlios has also grown. We are already known in many places on the world. Like also the big unversities in the USA. They get our debate postings each month one. The newest is about paradoxes. The Philosophy fights with the human ideas. Also a way.

ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Tue 12 Feb 2008 11:12:00 PM UTC, comment #13: 

Yes and that is not tto difficult ro make it working. Just an extra field, and members are more content with it. For everone likes to talk about his or her project

so we are one in this.

ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Tue 12 Feb 2008 08:20:20 PM UTC, comment #12: 

That's a good suggestion.

We ask for a project description in the "description" field, but it's indeed very formal.

I followed your advice and moved the "description" field above the others, asking what is special about the project.

Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>In charge of this item.
Mon 11 Feb 2008 11:05:05 PM UTC, comment #11: 

I stop to comment further. Here it's really to cold for it. I make too many typos. A small laptop as well. When you have problems to read it I will hear it

ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Mon 11 Feb 2008 08:41:48 PM UTC, comment #10: 

I agree fully wirht you. The legal sides are important. That dont want deny. And you give already that example from SCO.

So that is noit the point. But starting with a question waht is this project. Like a bit I have done is more exaptable for all members.

What is the differtence with and extra early question


1. What is this project

2. What is special of this project.

And such kind of questions are already enough. A nice start for members. Invited to tell something about it.

What do you think of this?

It's very cold here


ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Mon 11 Feb 2008 07:26:39 PM UTC, comment #9: 

Indeed, we have few requirements about the content, but a lot of requirements about legal checks, which are imposed on us mainly by copyright laws.

We accept almost any project that is free software, and that is released by good and consistent legal practices.

We feel it is important to have solid legal foundations for a project, otherwise this is a weakness (see the SCO attack on the Linux kernel for example).

Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>In charge of this item.
Mon 11 Feb 2008 06:14:24 AM UTC, comment #8: 

My small problem with you is this

Members are always more interested in the contents. That is with all members true. While you are more interested in the administration. That can be also a reson that other people put their projects at another place. It's somewhat demotivating.

I am not used to this way.

have a nice week


ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Wed 06 Feb 2008 08:58:11 PM UTC, comment #7: 


If I sum up:
- There is in fact only 1 project (not 3). It is "TSP", the traveling salesman.
- It comes with documentation under the GPLv2
- Dependencies are C and Gtk+
- You show good copyright practices in your other projects.

Here are the problems:
- We ask that manuals are licensed under a license compatible with the GNU GFDL. This excludes the GPLv2, because GPL and GDFL aren't compatible licenses. Is that a problem for you?
- I closed this registrations because I thought it was 3 different projects. So you need to resubmit the "TSP" project separately.

If you wish to host the traveling salesman project at Savannah, please resubmit it separately. Feel free to ask questions if anything is unclear.


Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>In charge of this item.
Mon 04 Feb 2008 08:28:45 PM UTC, comment #6: 

I do never do thiongs twice. I have nearly no time for that.

First I like to know are you right for my comments here.

Till now my last posting


ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Sun 03 Feb 2008 02:38:21 PM UTC, comment #5: 

You cn still put more specific questions. But I am a very busy guy. Also working in the weekends.

ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Sun 03 Feb 2008 01:55:41 PM UTC, comment #4: 

These ways have led to a new ERA.

This is a global paper


First in a country in old Europew and thhen Hopping fast to the USA. already prepared.

You can just follow your newspapers.

You are also free to say No. Not fitting here. Indeed we work in ways not known to many people. I can't help that.

The basics is the layer view. A popular paper.


With a scientific background.

ffrt the wind

ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Sun 03 Feb 2008 01:42:27 PM UTC, comment #3: 

We have very well thought about our ways. And they can differ with the other projects here. I know that. So first we need tuning.

We use GTK+ for graphics.

Normal projects can use many computerlanguages.

With us that is different. We bridge the gap between idea and source. And that has to be a computer language close to the machine Sop we use common C. And otherwise we would have used Java.

First our ways needed to be accepted, and after that maybe more can happen. We won't change our ways.

A sunny Sunday


ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Sun 03 Feb 2008 01:09:59 PM UTC, comment #2: 

Our lines. Here they come...

1 For important project. Think before act. That can be called here first the analyzing step. Than means analyzing with two members who email friendly and are stimulating each other. Acting is then developing.

2. User modules are top down thought and developed. The Gui and the Views. According our thinking.

3. Work modules are the jewel model. Like nature. All parallel. All cells of our body work parallel. So now bottom-up till too much, pollution. Too less memory in the PC. System dies. Like people can die. Closer to nature.

3a. First global algorithm at the user level (LOD, level of detail). Comment in the source. We make them by emailing friendly in versions. from rough into a figute woth points arrows and letters. Also in the source. The first layers to see by a developper. And easy to understand.

3b. The prime actions, prime algorithms also in ascii drawings in the source and with an concrete example

3c. fill in the actual statements

Developing becomes bridging the gap between the parallel thought and asked out bottom-up werking jewel modules.

The prime actions are put together and tested apart. Then we say baby run run. We have expectations but it can also be surprising. The mother project NNW works already so. We have already proved our ways. Demos avalable.

We promote also our ways.

Now only that short project. TSP is the traveling salesman.

An index from the analyzing phase


That index tells we are in the state of doing tryouts. The papers from that index show we use TSP likle it is already a weather simulation. With the same names. We already use the weather as model. We can start right away. Analyzing has been done. For finding propper algorithms. We need only one extra member for it also for the developing. The first developing steps are tryouts. Bridging what we like and what is possible. The better prime algorithms.

Dependencies. We have no real depencies. Ideas are similar. Not the sources.

I am the projectleader and papers and sources will obey GNU V2, and we prefer your site.

This is my side.

Have a nice day


ed van der meulen <ameulen>
Sun 03 Feb 2008 09:48:10 AM UTC, comment #1: 


Project need to be submitted separately at Savannah (one submission per project). Can you resubmit the 3 projects?

Can you also be more precise about the list of dependencies?

Last question: what is the license for your papers and documentation?

Please answer those questions when you resubmit the projects.


Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>In charge of this item.
Fri 01 Feb 2008 11:09:01 PM UTC, original submission:  

A new project has been registered at Savannah
This project account will remain inactive until a site admin approves or discards the registration.

Registration Administration

While this item will be useful to track the registration process, approving or discarding the registration must be done using the specific Group Administration page, accessible only to site administrators, effectively logged as site administrators (superuser):

Registration Details

  • Name: ed van der meulen
  • System Name:  ameulen
  • Type: non-GNU software & documentation
  • License: GNU General Public License v2 or later


I am a pure mathematician and a scientist and i know the limits of common mathematics. Like also discrete mathematics and a step further inductive mathematics.

Two (or three) open source projects

1a. a pre project The TSP like a weather simulation  a static picture from a movie. And in this way seen. With distances to the landscape. Pragramming language common C. With valid reasons. also the ways with valid reasons. Papers about it open op internet. And to show by me.

1b. The weather simulation project. A part from the inductive branch of mamathetics. Is very wanted.

2. the developing of the inductive branch itself. with already a very long paper open op internet about it. Send to the big universities with success. Also to show open op internet.

Other Software Required:

dependent are only our open source projects and our free software projects.

Other Comments:

Not only we like to promote open source project but also open science projects.

Like a tree we can see as body own cells so we can think top-down and devellop top-down.

But in contrast nature works parallel. And look please with a microscope and the tree shows streams of food are entering the roots. and foodstream come from the leaves. and where are then the object? These become the so called work modules that are thought and developed bottom up. Put together ans say: baby run baby run.

Also soon you will hear from us in your own news paper. We are already famous in this world. You could for instance google for a lot of papers from us. One is - layers everywhere.

All project are in the phase for developing it. The analyzing phase has ended. It can make your site to become famous. And they are very needed projects.

There is still no source. A link to another project with source is this one:

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