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bug #63209: devuan GNU/Linux not on list of supported distributions

Submitter:  Jeffrey Cliff <themusicgod1>
Submitted:  Thu 13 Oct 2022 08:10:10 PM UTC
 
Category:  None Severity:  3 - Normal
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Thu 13 Oct 2022 11:31:17 PM UTC, comment #6: 

comment #4:

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> given that debian has recently decided that the installer will enable non-free repos;


Links about the debian vote:

- https://www.debian.org/vote/2022/vote_003
- https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2022/10/msg00000.html

Will this change go in effect in Debian 12?  If so, maybe we should not add future versions of Debian to the db.

Yuchen Pei <ycp>
Project Administrator
Thu 13 Oct 2022 11:08:26 PM UTC, comment #5: 

Before we make any change, is it documented anywhere what distros we want to include?  FSDG distros should be no brainer, but should we also include non-FSDG ones? The database currently include a few non-FSDG ones like Debian and VenenuX and I am not sure why.

From a precedence point of view, I suppose if Devuan is a strictly subset of Debian then there should be no problem including it given Debian is already included.

Yuchen Pei <ycp>
Project Administrator
Thu 13 Oct 2022 11:02:58 PM UTC, comment #4: 

i am not certain about all this, but i will explain as best as i understand things

when h-node started, debian was not recognized - h-node was conceived to support the FSDG distros - some years later, debian had agreed to a collaboration and was added to the whitelist at that time

  https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-and-debian-join-forces-to-help-free-software-users-find-the-hardware-they-need

however, i found no evidence for that from debian though - it appears that the plan was never fully realized - the h-client was proposed, but never packaged for debian - instead, the debian wiki suggests a different database, which includes all hardware, without specifying if the kernel modules are libre or not

i have argued that debian should be removed - because kernel modules are not whitelisted, the non-free repos make all submissions dubious; and debian is making no attempt to endorse h-node or encourage their users to contribute to it

given that debian has recently decided that the installer will enable non-free repos; the debian developers are now less helpful then ever, toward separating and identifying non-free packages - the devuan installer has always enabled non-free repos - h-node would need significant new code to allow debian or devuan submissions, without false positives

perhaps that could change; and perhaps devuan could also participate - it is worth considering; but i am not so hopeful, without some formal endorsement or cooperation from the distro maintainers

bill-auger <bill_auger>
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Thu 13 Oct 2022 11:02:16 PM UTC, comment #3: 

yea sry, i just realized that now - it is confusing how savannah lumps all tickets under the same URL

bill-auger <bill_auger>
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Thu 13 Oct 2022 10:37:13 PM UTC, comment #2: 

This is a server issue, not a client issue, so should not be marked as a duplicate.

Yuchen Pei <ycp>
Project Administrator
Thu 13 Oct 2022 10:22:26 PM UTC, comment #1: 

duplicate of #63208

patch referenced in #63208

bill-auger <bill_auger>
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Thu 13 Oct 2022 08:10:10 PM UTC, original submission:  

https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?63208 suggests that something has to happen on the server side in order for devuan submissions to be accepted

Jeffrey Cliff <themusicgod1>

 

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file #53849:  patch1.patch added by themusicgod1 (1KiB - text/x-patch - devuan)

 

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    2022-10-13 ycp StatusDuplicate None
    2022-10-13 bill_auger StatusNone Duplicate
    2022-10-13 themusicgod1 Attached File- Added patch1.patch, #53849

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