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bug #52653: device initialization often fails in FT232R syncbb mode, due to glitchy start sequence

Submitted by:  Rainer Z <rai42>
Submitted on:  Tue 12 Dec 2017 11:57:30 PM UTC  
Category: NoneSeverity: 3 - Normal
Priority: 5 - NormalItem Group: None
Status: NonePrivacy: Public
Assigned to: NoneOriginator Name: rai42
Open/Closed: OpenRelease: 6.2
Programmer hardware: FTDI FT232RLDevice type: ATmega8

Tue 12 Dec 2017 11:57:30 PM UTC, original submission:


Using a custom board with ATmega8 and FT232RL and the following config/connections:

id = "ftdi_uni_uC";
desc = "FT232R Synchronous BitBang";
type = "ftdi_syncbb";
connection_type = usb;
baudrate = 38400;
reset = 7; #RI
sck = 3; #CTS
mosi = 6; #DCD
miso = 5; #DSR

I used avrdude 6.2 (but the relevant file ft245r.c is identical with 6.3).

THE PROBLEM: I find that device initialization often (about 50% of tries) fails as follows:

$ sudo ./avrdude -p m8 -c ftdi_uni_uC -P ft0

avrdude: Device is not responding to program enable. Check connection.
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
this check.

Investigating with an oscilloscope, I found that during ft245r_open() the signals behave as follows:

1) start with RESET=1, SCK=0
2) calling ftdi_set_bitmode (line 614) => sets RESET=0
3) calling ft245r_drain (line 638) =>
shortly pulses RESET=1 and SCK=1 simultaneously, then back to 0
This seems to happen due to the switching of bitmodes back&forth in ft245r_drain().
4) calling ft245r_send (line 640) - set output to ft245r_out => sets RESET=1

This is followed by the actual init sequence in ft245r_initialize().

It appears that the simultaneous pulsing of RESET and SCK (step 3 above) puts the ATmega (already powered up since VCC is not controlled) in an undefined state. This is not (always) fixed by the folloiwing init sequence, despite pulsing RESET high in accorance with the datasheet.

I assume that programmers that control VCC will not be affected by this problem, since the AVR is not powered up before ft245r_initialize() runs.

PROPOSED PATCH (see attached ft245r.patch):

  • change ft245r_drain() to use ftdi_read_data until buffer is empty, instead of bitmode switching
  • call ft245r_drain() before setting up the reader thread, rather than after (make sure reader thread starts with empty buffer).

This fixed the issue for me (i.e. initialization and further operations now work reliably).

Rainer Z <rai42>


Attached Files
file #42625:  ft245r.patch added by rai42 (1KiB - text/x-patch - Patch to ft245r.c)


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